3. Do you think that First Nations people have been granted "special treatment"?

3. Do you think that Mexicans in the US are enjoying undeserved privilages?


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"Special treatment" in the sense of involuntary sterilization, extreme poverty, enforced migration? Yeah, sure, but these things I think my ancestors could have done without, and the college scholarships and job opportunities I was offered by virtue of having First Nations blood hardly make up for the wrongs of the past. As for Mexicans in the U.S., the government of this country (and especially the Anti-Christ personified, Pete Wilson) has legislated denial of even basic human rights for Mexican immigrants. Undeserved privileges? Only if gradual genocide by means of DDT can be viewed as a privilege.

- Sunday, September 21, 1997 at 15:36:54 (CST)

no. no.
<BG>
- Friday, September 26, 1997 at 10:26:57 (CST)

3. no./no.

- Tuesday, October 07, 1997 at 09:49:41 (CST)

No, absolutely not.

- Tuesday, October 07, 1997 at 09:53:49 (CST)

no no
<class11@northern.lights.com>
- Tuesday, October 07, 1997 at 09:58:27 (CST)

i don't think that first nations people have been given special treatment but i do think that they have been treated differently than white society. i guess that is kind of obvious since white people seem to take up treating everyone who is "different" like absolute shit. as for mexicans in the us, i don't have enough knowledge of what is going on there to offer any sort of half valid comment.
<daryl>
- Wednesday, October 08, 1997 at 19:35:03 (CST)

The First Nations people have definately screwed over so many times, but they could at least get something for helping build a nation. I know I would be if one were to call it an "undeserved privilage"......
<Stephy Acoose>
- Tuesday, October 28, 1997 at 14:34:48 (CST)

No! No! No!

- Thursday, November 13, 1997 at 15:52:18 (CST)

because the us is a backstabbing stated just like the nicaraguan problem in the 1980's in which reagan gave them asylum and clinton said to go back
<sgtgarcia@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 20:16:35 (CST)

What do you mean :"undeserved privilages?" Are healthcare and education considered privilages? Undeserved? Who decides who's worthy and who's not? Mexicans(legal or illegal) in the US contribute to the economy just as much as anyone else. Mexican's have made this country wealthy at the expense of low wages and abuse.However, racists and bigots seem to believe we're taking away their precious privilages. We pay taxes and contribute to society as much as anyone. So cut the crap and stop ignorance.
<Gisell>
- Tuesday, December 02, 1997 at 00:57:17 (CST)

A) No. We have been granted "cheated" treatment B) I'm ignorant on the U.S's policy involving Mexicans. But I would have to say that they also are not enjoying undeserved privilages.
<Shawn E. Shawn shawn_henry@banffcentre.ab.ca>
- Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 16:41:11 (CST)

a. Not to suggest that the general voting public of middle America and its extremities cares about a dictionary when they spout their spoonfed rhetoric, and not as though Merriam-Webster doesn't have its own colonial bias, but: "special adj 1 : UNCOMMON, NOTEWORTHY [abso-fucking-lutely] 2 : particularly favored [absolutely NOT AT ALL] 5 : confined to or designed for a definite field of action, purpose, or occasion [definitely, just like Whitey is in another fashion]. Connected Rant: Aside from the fact that utterly absolute democracy has never occurred in the history of this planet, I think that affirmative action is essential until the barely-imaginable day when those who work in law and media stop disregarding, marginalizing, censoring and pretending to control or attempt to control "the Other". b. "undeserved" by the standards of the 'privileged' dominators, who are humanistically blind and deaf but unfortunately not mute: yes. "undeserved" by the standards of my belief in a potential for human decency and justice: NO FUCKING WAY. (bonus rant: 'in my humble opinion' is by far one of the most worthless and extraneous, if not totally inaccurate, phrases that gets overused these days.
<ianus@elwha.evergreen.edu>
- Friday, April 03, 1998 at 00:55:46 (CST)

Undeserved? Special? Is this a trick question?

- Wednesday, April 22, 1998 at 00:05:08 (CST)

no, but what does First Nations mean anyway--indigenous or Native ? Of course Mexicans in the US are not enjoying undeserved privilages.
<m l.>
- Monday, June 08, 1998 at 14:49:54 (CST)

(why are there two seemingly unconnected questions on each one?) I would say that the only ones enjoying anything nearing "privilages" here in the good old You Ess of Ay are white guys who are very hetero and only like women and never tried pot. I haven't known that many Mexicans, but my impression is that they're being shit upon just like every other immigrant group has been. I'd say that in 50 years the descendants of Mexican immigrants will be actively hating the newest batch of immigrants from, say, Iceland, or New Zealand. My great-grandparents and their siblings came here from Germany, Hungary, Poland, etc around 1900. They were hated for speaking German, now they hate so-called "spics and niggers" (though I'd imagine the "niggers" have been here much longer). "Why don't they ship all those stinky Hatians back?" And I say, "Because you're the devil, Nana."
<Lucas Grzybowski - ltg8986@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
- Thursday, July 16, 1998 at 13:47:20 (CST)

Yes. Ignorant Liberals (redundant) are tripping over themselves to make bi-lingual programs, affirmative action programs, and other idiotic ideas.

- Wednesday, August 05, 1998 at 00:44:05 (CST)

If you thing 'special treatment means genocide- it's been special treatment! Mexican's enjoying undeserved privilages? This question attempts to mystify the whole racist process by which 'privilges' that white people get is normalised/naturalised by invader thinking-and where the benefits of this invasion and theft that they feel they 'deserve' is organised by an ideology that suggests the victims of crime do not 'deserve' what is morally ,ethically and any other way you want to call 'THEIRS!
<v.hart@qut.edu.au>
- Saturday, August 15, 1998 at 23:50:50 (CST)

No, because of the history of the US, First Nations people are innundated with programs to make it seem like the US cares what happens to them. Yes, Mexicans in the US are enjoying undeserved privilages. The Mexicans in the US who are enjoying monetary privilages because they participate in heartless capitalism do not deserve the privilages they are enjoying.
<jimmy>
- Friday, September 11, 1998 at 23:00:22 (CST)

"privilage" is by definition undeserved-but there is no question that regaurdless of any legislation etc. We european-americans have the corner on the privilage market. And that feels uncomfortable -but not as uncomfortable as not having the privilage would feel hence the right wing backlash!

- Saturday, October 31, 1998 at 16:56:41 (CST)

White Girls My visions are not in the sky Nor in a blade of grass A poetšs book A canvas A dialogue with death Instead, The metaphysics musing The distortions of my life Speak to me with excess Saying, łIts you I do not like.˛ Išm unimpressed with my hybridity The independence of my trust In the grieving over suffering Like something lost in shock. The interracial programs The body politic, the talk The intimate dysfunction The perpetual breaking up. The half committed vengeance The soldiers falling on their swords There prisoners both lie blameless Bouncing in their beds And lesser this performance, Leads still to piercing light Where tossed around the ugly fun the White girls waging war.

- Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 20:24:35 (CST)

I do think that the First Nations have a right and should be afforded special treatment considering the numerous treaties which have been entered into with them as individual sovereign nations with guarantees of future annuities which, over the years would amount to much more than they are now receiving if the treaties had been honored. The Canadian government should allow the First Nations to create their own provinces in the North or wherever and subsidize them just as Quebec has been subsidized (as a conquered nation) for more than two hundred years. At least the Indians speak English and will assimilate far easier than the Francophones. They will find it far easier to join the North American English language economy than than will the Qubecois. As for the Mexicans in the U.S. The privilege to clean toilets, do laundry, cut lawns, etc. are ones the Mexicans in the United States accept without complaint. They are more honest,and less competative than Americans. They are more loyal to family than Americans, and their explosive population growth is fueling a steady economic growth, because as in Canada-the European poulation is showing little growth and much of that outside of stable families. The privileges that Mexicans enjoy they deserve and work very hard for them.

- Tuesday, December 08, 1998 at 01:18:18 (CST)